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Still On The Same Panel

Henny B — Posted on The Cyclekart Club
Tuesday March 3, 2015 4:10 PM

You guys have to excuse me. I got myself a cheapy English wheel. So I can teach myself a new skill. Here are some pictures of the progress and the wheel. I can tell you here is a lot of learning to do. To make the right movements in one supple go. Keeping the panel level. And the more it's start to shine. The more you see the the imperfection, you just rolled in. But it's fun.

Henny

Last photo before the wheel

The wheel

Last photo after the wheel

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2015-03-03 19:35:57 # 24392

Comment by ian w

Nice job Henny the correct tool makes a big difference.

2015-03-04 15:25:26 # 24403

Comment by Brian C

Great job,Looks like you learn fast.Whats the plan for the bottom half?

2015-03-04 17:18:15 # 24407

Comment by Henny B

The problem is more how do I attach them together. And then how do I attach it to the kart. I don't do tig welding alu. Pop rivets I don't like. Real rivets a option if available I beleave they are. Henny

2015-03-04 20:29:55 # 24413

Comment by andrew roudny

Looks good to me. I'd say why not pop rivets?

2015-03-05 00:44:01 # 24416

Comment by Brian S

Looks really good Henny..You could use pop rivets and just fill them..Thats my plan..

2015-03-05 03:19:22 # 24417

Comment by Henny B

Brian I am probably not gonna paint it so then they wil stick out like sore thump even when filled. I am gonna test a spot welding trick I saw on the net. If you sandwich your peace between steel you can spot weld alu. At least that's what the video showed.Henny

2015-03-05 20:10:24 # 24432

Comment by Brian S

That sounds interesting Henny,,Let us know how you get on..Cheers Brian.

2015-03-06 21:52:11 # 24444

Comment by Brian C

HennyI was thinking about How to join the top and side pieces without rivets and remembered seeing a grooved flat lock seam. Can't post a picture here but you can look up on web. Don't know if it will work for this applicationJust a thought.

2015-03-07 08:47:27 # 24447

Comment by Henny B

i decided on making the top panel hinged and not connected to the sides, a bit like a normal car hood. i will fold the bottom edge over once. i looked up the flatlock seam. its cerntainly doable but not on this panel. Not for me anyway i am an amateur. Henny

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The Picture That Didn't Load And Some More.

Henny B — Posted on The Cyclekart Club
Saturday February 7, 2015 12:06 PM

Sheet metal working.

Pattern cut loose so it can lay flat. The sheet roughly cut

One afternoon hammering

Two afternoons

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2015-02-07 13:08:26 # 23764

Comment by Zoran R. P.

Rating: 10/10

Hello Henny, Great work until now and promissing process! (I thought that you are just wood-work boat-builder master, but your metal-shaping work is magnificent, too) Ciao, Zoran P.S.: If I am allowed to say this?

2015-02-07 13:54:49 # 23765

Comment by Henny B

Zoran maybe I'am a better photographer. I wish I had a planishing hammer you know electric or however they work. An English wheel wouldn't have done it for this one. Besides we only have an English wheel for ships hull plating. And all the knowledge comes from the net. I am not that good but I have plenty of time.

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Trying To Form Some Sheet Aluminum

Henny B — Posted on The Cyclekart Club
Saturday February 7, 2015 11:55 AM

The panel is mainly formed by shrinking. I use shrinking forks to pull the tuck in the metal, and a flat wooden stump to hammer it flat. I suggest looking at some YouTube videos on sheet metal shrinking.

Cardboard pattern

Three afternoons of shrinking and a bit of planishing

I have to make some more tools. Mainly hand dollys I am missing.

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2015-02-07 14:34:04 # 23766

Comment by Zoran R. P.

Rating: 10/10

...some people judge quality of work in FEET! (could be used meters instead) ... that means: what is distance between photographer and object needed to take photo and work should still looks fine! so, maybe 10 feet here? not bad at all for the start of metal-shaping! ... ... will you let metal shining or plan to put some paint after finishing? many times I watched masters how shape metal just with hand-tools! the best master - it looked to me simpler and easier! never dareed to try that. just a few simple things (steel parts on automobiles that we reconstucted) ... zoran

2015-02-07 14:36:43 # 23767

Comment by Douglas Anderson

Now that is skill - or possibly art!Keep up the good work.

2015-02-07 16:49:52 # 23769

Comment by Brian C

Nicely done as always.

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Making The Buck Or Is It Bug For The Tail.

Henny B — Posted on The Cyclekart Club
Tuesday February 3, 2015 3:31 PM

I have been practicing on some scrap alloy, with shrinking the sheet metal I think maybe that I can pull it of. So as a good boat builder, I speared out my tail by eye and a piece of plastic used for spearing out stuff.

Side view this gives me the radius of frame

I am not gonna bevel the frames it's only a buck. And I am a novice sheet metal worker

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2015-02-03 18:39:33 # 23665

Comment by andrew roudny

Good method using the bendable plastic to give yourself a line to follow.

2015-02-04 10:11:11 # 23688

Comment by Tim Zager

Looks good Henny, you can't let inexperience stop you from trying that's how we learn. Keep up the good work.

2015-02-05 03:12:45 # 23705

Comment by Brian S

Henny,,I reckon if it looks right,,it is right!! Keep up the great work.

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Rolling A Bead With Hand Tools

Henny B — Posted on The Cyclekart Club
Saturday January 24, 2015 1:08 PM

On this panel I had to roll a bead. Folding it over on the backside of the panel, wouldn't have worked. I hope the pictures wil explain. I block the thin alloy rod with a piece of wood and some clamps. Started in the middle where I had a straight line. The rod was only lying against the wood. And then gently tap the panel edge around the rod. In the bend part you take smaller steps with the short side of wood block like in the picture.

Henny

Sticking the panel underneath the side panel, to scribe it of. The front edge was done in the same way, I

Rolling the bead with basic tools.

Ok not perfect but I can live with this

From a distance even better.

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2015-01-24 13:20:59 # 23394

Comment by Douglas Anderson

Very nice!

2015-01-24 17:50:54 # 23396

Comment by Zoran R. P.

Rating: 10/10

Henny,From Swiss - it is wonderful, but in Holland it shall be too!Zoran

2015-01-24 22:48:20 # 23398

Comment by Dennis Thomas

That is a damn nice detail Henny, I'll have to give that technique a try. Thanks for the photos

2015-01-25 09:37:36 # 23405

Comment by Don Minch

Nicely done. I like the result.

2015-01-25 19:47:30 # 23412

Comment by Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Looks great in the picture, keep it up.

2015-01-26 00:18:23 # 23416

Comment by John Taylor

Wonderfull use of this techniqe. It is this kind of extra detail that makes these cycle karts look very much like there vintage inspiration.

2015-01-26 08:49:42 # 23421

Comment by andrew roudny

Can I ask what is the thickness of the metal you're using for the body work? I assume it's aluminum.

2015-01-26 12:22:40 # 23427

Comment by Henny B

Andrew It's 1/32'' or 0,8mm. The bonnet is 2mm. Henny

2015-01-27 04:08:08 # 23437

Comment by ian w

Nice job Henny.I just seen a caterham doco on dream cars of them doing something similar if anyone is interested

2015-01-27 04:35:46 # 23438

Comment by ian w

@4mins 20 secs is the relevant part

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Some More Work Done.

Henny B — Posted on The Cyclekart Club
Wednesday January 21, 2015 12:18 PM

Here are some pictures of the progress I made with the panels.

This bothers me so it has to go

Gluing in the alloy stretch metal with ms polymer.

Side panel with folded edged

One more panel

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2015-01-21 15:17:51 # 23361

Comment by Brian C

Looking good Henny.Like the bend on the radiator. I will probably do mine straight unless I can figure out a good way to do it .Starting to look like a Bugatti Keep up the good work!.

2015-01-21 18:40:22 # 23365

Comment by Pawat Bunchonglikitgul

Hi! it's beautiful cars.I'm like it. I'll make by you.Thank you ,Tony Thailand.

2015-01-21 20:31:16 # 23368

Comment by Don Minch

Wow. It's already looking great and it isn't even finished yet! I am so jealous right now. Nice car, sir. Very nice. And will only get better from here.

2015-01-22 07:11:04 # 23369

Comment by Jeffrey Hollestelle

Da's niet gemaakt met twee linkerhandjes Henny! Real craftsmanship, those curves are beautiful.

2015-01-22 09:56:09 # 23370

Comment by Henny B

Thanks guys but things look better on a photo. But I am pleased with the result. Henny

2015-01-22 12:26:41 # 23377

Comment by Dennis Thomas

Good looking view from the front Henny. I like the radiator.

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